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Jerbil
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:16 pm 
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Just paid our municipality taxes for the coming year.

Two houses and one car, 67.79 leva. About 10% up on last year.

The car tax was the same as last year, 13.68 leva. The actual property taxes had gone down a few stotinki but the garbage tax portion was up.
  
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:54 pm 
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I paid 46.30lv for 1 house and 1 car.

House tax the same at 25.95lv

Car tax dropped for some reason (and if u have an answer I'd be happy to understand why) because last year i had a car identical to the car i just bought (cos i wrote the old one off), last year was 68lv for car, this year 20.35lv. ( same horse power or KW, same engine size)

Any thoughts???????
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:12 pm 
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Being new to all this and trying to establish what we can afford, can someone please explain to me what ongoing costs we will have after purchase.

Is Municipality tax the same thing essentially as the Council tax/rates whatever people call it nowadays that we pay in the UK.
If so, what is it based on? Is it the value of your property, the size of your land, the number of houses or other outbuildings on it?
Do they include rubbish collection?
Also does it vary from one municipality to another as it would here?

Why have people posted that they also paid their car taxes. Is this just because they happened to be due at the same time or is this something that is also part and parcel of the Municiplaity tax?

Next on my list at home would be water rates and sewerage charges.
Again can someone please tell me if these are chargeable items and if so how they are assessed.

Electricity. Are there a number of different providers? Costs?

Gas - Is gas available for cooking/heating?

Telephone. / Internet. Again number of providers/costs of installation and monthly.

Buiding & Contents Insurance. Is this widely available? Is it difficult to get if the property will only be used for holidays? ie Vacant for long periods of time.

I completely appreciate that everyone's bills and useage are going to be different, so I am not looking for a definititve answer. Just general information to establish if we can afford living costs.
  
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:32 pm 
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I have little time to answer fully as the spaghetti is heating up for supper.

Firstly, forget expensive UK rates, communal taxes and water rates etc. I paid SIX Lev last year for what you would turn Council Tax; as you say, it varies, but it is not going to bust the bank.

We have a thread going on House and Home Contents Insurance so best to move that part of your question there. My last Electricity bill was 123 Lev but the previous to that was nearly 400 Lev. Folk here reckon that I'm running the street lights as they only pay a fraction 60 Lev ish per month.

Gas, bottled or LPG, you're only on holiday, so gas bottles better for you I might suggest.

Sorry out of time and I'm hungry. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:36 pm 
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See my post above.

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Is Municipality tax the same thing essentially as the Council tax/rates whatever people call it nowadays that we pay in the UK.

Yes.
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If so, what is it based on? Is it the value of your property, the size of your land, the number of houses or other outbuildings on it?
Do they include rubbish collection?
Also does it vary from one municipality to another as it would here?

Yes, yes and yes. For two properties we pay about 55 leva of which more than 50% is garbage tax.
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Why have people posted that they also paid their car taxes. Is this just because they happened to be due at the same time or is this something that is also part and parcel of the Municiplaity tax?

It is separate from the other tax you mention but it is a municipality tax and paid at the municipality, due around the same time.
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Next on my list at home would be water rates and sewerage charges.
Again can someone please tell me if these are chargeable items and if so how they are assessed.

Water is paid to a water board based on a meter, like electricity. We pay just over 0.001 leva per liter. If you are lucky enough to have mains sewerage, I don’t have a clue.
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Electricity. Are there a number of different providers? Costs?
Gas - Is gas available for cooking/heating?
Telephone. / Internet. Again number of providers/costs of installation and monthly.

Electricity, typically one provider per area. Our costs are roughly .20 leva per kwh and just over half that if you opt for (a fee) a night rate.
Gas is available (piped in) in some towns, possibly some villages but outside towns typically you’ll need a tank, small one and fill it/get a replacement at petrol stations (about 3.10 leva per kg) or a large one and good luck finding a supplier.
Telephone/Internet. Many, many different providers. If you want a landline (which may be a pseudo landline, i.e. mobile technology) then see BTK who are typically at their mobile equivalent, Vivacom, office (we pay about 14 leva per month). Mobiles, we get good packages with lots of free UK minutes for less than 10 leva per month. We use Kamchia.net for internet, 5mbps for 20 leva per month (pay for 12 and waive the 30 leva installation)
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Buiding & Contents Insurance. Is this widely available? Is it difficult to get if the property will only be used for holidays? ie Vacant for long periods of time.

No problem with BG insurance companies (we have one property that is essentially vacant all the time) and there are many. We use DZI.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:58 pm 
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Wotnowales wrote:
Being new to all this and trying to establish what we can afford, can someone please explain to me what ongoing costs we will have after purchase.

Is Municipality tax the same thing essentially as the Council tax/rates whatever people call it nowadays that we pay in the UK.
If so, what is it based on? Is it the value of your property, the size of your land, the number of houses or other outbuildings on it?
Do they include rubbish collection?
Also does it vary from one municipality to another as it would here?


Actually, sometimes you think you know it all and find out that you don't *me I mean).

How does Bulgarian actually work out the taxable value of a dwelling; I don't think that it is overall sq metres, but I might be wrong. Typical Bulgarian village houses either had room(s) underneath or at the side or back for the property that were meant for farm animals.

The two Skitsas (Deed Plans for want of a better description), both show the square metres but also detail the usage of them even though they are collocated within the four boundary walls. Therefore, I get the impression that they do not tax animal dwelling area, only human living area. That would make sense as my original house was very small and I NEVER YET changed its function from part barn/animal dwelling to living area for humans. However, the Wife could always claim that I am a PIG if push comes to shove.

I am aware that Bulgaria did or wants to introduce a Super Tax for properties with total living space over 150 sq metres but again, I don't know if that is overall size to include bathrooms, kitchens, corridors etc, or, just bedrooms and living rooms as such.

To answer or back-up another question that was answered, Yes, taxes differ from region to region. I resurrected a thread over the other side about who pays what for which vehicle and discovered that I was paying more. Probably a downside of living closer to the sea, I don't know how they work it out to be honest.

We are still cheaper than most of Western Europe for our electricity, but it is creeping up. Gas prices will go up again shortly, but your initial consumption as a holiday visitor will be negligible and of course, you shouldn't be paying any in the UK whilst you're here unless you're leaving teenagers at home partying each and every night. Wink

Good luck.
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:34 am 
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So basically then it's the area of the house that determines the cost and it doesn't matter if the garden is enormous?

I take the point that outbuildings barns are/were for animals, but I've seen that some properties come with another house, usually derelict, so presumably that would also be assessed?

It's good though to get it confirmed that the costs are miniscule compared to those here.

I take your point that even if gas or electric costs are similar to the UK, then we'd only be using it in one place at a time anyway.

Plus there's always the option of a wood burner if needed.

BTW What do people use for cooking in their summer kitchen?
  
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The summer kitchens around here seem to have those Baby Belling type oven, hob combinations, but I guess they would be a fairly recent innovation. If we had one, we'd put a barbecue into it as most seem to be open fronted.

As far as municipal tax goes, it is rare to hear of someone paying more than 100 leva though someone in Balchik was being charged 700+ for a plot of land. I have no idea how the tax is worked out but I presume it is like most things over here. Someone throws a dart and whatever it lands on is what you will pay.

We are on mains water supply and pay 5 leva per month for water. Gas we have to buy in bottles.
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:03 am 
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The summer kitchens around here seem to have those Baby Belling type oven, hob combinations, but I guess they would be a fairly recent innovation. If we had one, we'd put a barbecue into it as most seem to be open fronted.

As far as municipal tax goes, it is rare to hear of someone paying more than 100 leva though someone in Balchik was being charged 700+ for a plot of land. I have no idea how the tax is worked out but I presume it is like most things over here. Someone throws a dart and whatever it lands on is what you will pay.

We are on mains water supply and pay 5 leva per month for water. Gas we have to buy in bottles.


So is mains water metered or is that a flat charge? Which Municipality are you in?
  
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:24 am 
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Our water is metered but even with a pool and a very leaky hosepipe its only about 160lv a year. I dont pay municipality TAX as i rent.

HOWEVER, i do know you can change your "taxation class". As your house will be in a company name you will be paying at company levels. You can have it reclassified by the authorities as residential and lower the bill. How much I dont know but I was with a BG'n friend who was getting the reclassification's for a few brits round here and he was explaining what was going on.
  
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Mains water is always metered and we pay between 7 leva - 15 leva a month..15 leva is during the summer when we water by hosepipe everyday Exclamation (Note - If you have a well there is an extra charge for this)

We cook using a gas hob with bottled gas - and 10 leva of gas lasts about 3 months - that's cooking between hob and microwave.

Electric costs us 50 - 70 leva per month - 70 leva is for winter.

Car tax is about 125 leva for my 1.8 Ford Zetec Escort( You pay in relation to the power of your car - more power - more money) - you then have to pay car insurance - 170 leva for me - plus road tax(end of Jan annually) - 67 leva(fixed) and MOT 23 leva(fixed)(?)......so a car costs a lot more than a house. Exclamation Exclamation
Taxes for the property and car are due each year in April.

Our 'Council Tax' is about 35 leva a year and includes street lights and garbage collection - weekly. (No silly rules included). In the village square are 3 bins for plastic, glass, cardboard, which surprise surprise actually get used Exclamation

I think that's about it.. Smile
  
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Mains water is always metered. Best to pay regularly as they regard the whole lot as one bill and will not allow you to pay off 'older' bills, mind you its not a lot, but if you use a lot on the garden and run up two years bills, it can be a surprise!  
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BTW What do people use for cooking in their summer kitchen?


I have this very useful implement called a WIFE. Laughing

Actually, I have a two gas ring camping cooker which is adequate running off a gas bottle, but you can buy a stand alone gas cooker for circa 400 BGN with an oven and grill. Sometimes you see them second-hand, but it always seems that if I want to buy something then, they're located at the other end of Bulgaria.

You could indeed use a wood burning stove, I have an ancient one in the old house that has an oven and hot plate, but I might suggest that it is TOO hot as it is in the summer kitchen without having to light a fire and then extinguish it or wait for it to go out. Electric or gas is quicker and cleaner in the summer and you only use what you require when cooking. Best use the firewood for outside BBQ's as when it gets hot, that's all most folk have an appetite for, fresh tasty tomatoes, cucumbers, onions as sweet as apples, FETA type cheeses and tasty Olives. Plus, a nice local inexpensive chilled white or rose wine. Wink
  
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We're on mains water and it's not metered. Laughing We pay 5 leva a month down at the council offices.

WotnoWales , we're in Kyustendil District, south west BG.
  
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Does anyone know of a website which tells you how much Car/House municipality tax is due?

Thanks stewarty
  
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