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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:36 pm 
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I think this is poor reporting.

Reading between the lines of a number of online sources, it seems that the EU could fine Bulgaria for it's lack of implementationof a number of green technologies, including renovating sewage farms, and generating electricity from renewable sources. Andrey Bachvarov, who is promoting bio-mass as a means of electricity generation, seems to be interpreting this to mean that Bulgaria has to switch from using wood stoves for home heating to presumably electric heating. Of course he has a vested interest in putting forward this point of view. I don't think it will catch on in the villages.....
  
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:25 pm 
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I think the word bo**ocks springs to mind, not as in the exclamation this is rather bad news, more that it is a load of

I am sure some of these people wake up in the morning and sit over breakfast thinking "what crap can I come out with today to get myself noticed".......
  

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:51 pm 
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O well then, I'll just have to cancel the Ukraine visa and remain here.
Kosta stop raising our blood pressure. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:17 pm 
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Interestingly enough, Bulgaria is not the only country to have been found to be infringing the directive ... http://ec.europa.eu/energy/infringements/proceedings/renewables_en.htm ... also infringing the same directive is Cyprus, Czech Republic, Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Malta, Poland, Slovenia, Austria, Luxembourg and Hungary ...

Also interesting is the person quoted in the report stands to make a Leva or 2 if Bulgaria is forced down the renewables/recycling route.
  
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The fact that no country has yet dared to ban wood burning doesn't mean that there is no danger - we all know that cigarettes are dangerous but they are still legal everywhere I am aware of.

Wood smoke is a rising problem in Greece, for example, where oil and gas prices are getting too high for most normal people - and leading to higher prices here since wood is being exported to Greece at a rapidly-increasing rate.

Here are a few random reports in English (sorry, I can't be arsed to turn them all into "pretty" links!):

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_28/12/2012_476299

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_02/01/2013_476588

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_05/01/2013_476993

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_08/01/2013_477364

http://www.lead.org.au/Lanv7n3/L73-3.html

Personally, I love the sight and smell of a wood fire/glass-sided petchka like we use in France but I also find that I cough a lot when I'm in a house which uses one or in an area with a high percentage of them....and our a/c used for heating is still proving to cost less to run than our neighbours' petchkas Wink
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There are certainly some areas in Bulgaria where I would not live due to the inversion zones that happen in winter, with cold air trapping the fumes from wood and coal stoves and traffic making for very bad air conditions. Our local town is in a hollow below steep mountains and we have trouble breathing there sometimes (but not in our village at 1000 meters). It is something to be very aware off when buying here.  
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Yeah, it's very visible here in our apartment on the slopes of Vitosha when we look across the city and see it covered in fog while we're in the sun.... Wink
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Yes we call it the 'white sea'.  
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How much Biomass is currently being burnt in the UK?

According to Ofgem data for the period of 2011/2012:

+ Around 3.7 million tonnes of woodchips and pellets were burnt during those 12 months. Note that 1 tonne of pellets translates into 2 tonnes of greenwood. The conversion is different for woodchips and I’ve not tried to work out the likely overall tonnage for greenwood,

+ All imported wood for bioenergy is being burnt in coal power stations, including the converted Tilbury B. The much smaller dedicated biomass power stations continue to run on domestic feedstock, including roundwood, i.e. wood from whole trees. Please note that companies use quite different descriptions and only in some cases is it clear whether whole trees or residues were used.

+ By far the largest proportion of imported wood pellets for UK power stations came from Canada (1.72 million tonnes of pellets). This was followed by just over 376,000 tonnes of pellets from the US and much smaller quantities from Portugal, New Zealand, South Africa and Latvia.

Demand for biomass is skyrocketing, with 42 power new power stations 18 MW or over proposed across the UK.

Tilbury B, which is currently a coal-fired power station with some biomass capacity, is expected to soon become the world’s largest biomass power station, with a capacity of 870MW, which will require on its own around 7-8 million tonnes of wood each year.


So 7.4 Million tonnes of wood used in UK Biomass power stations set to rise to around 90 million tonnes of wood per year in JUST the United Kingdom. THATS A LOT OF FECKIN TREES and 80% of it will come from abroad in large gas guzzling co2 emitting ships.....

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Biomass power stations today are only 25% efficient, with 75% of the energy potential of the fuel wasted.

Around ten years ago, new thinkers really thought that biomass and biofuels could be the energy for the future. The idea of ‘renewability’ was that you can harvest trees and regrow them. This myth has long been disproven. In reality, large-scale industrial biomass burning is a particularly polluting form of energy harmful to forests, people and the climate.

European Environment Agency Scientific Committee: (agency of the European Union devoted to the monitoring of the European environment) In 2011 it published a report which stated that the assumption that biomass is carbon neutral is a ‘serious accounting error’ and that using biomass can result in increased carbon emissions and thereby accelerate global warming, and recommended that governments must rectify this situation as soon as possible.

Tilbury alone will make £500 Million in government energy subsidies each year and actually raise CO2 levels by 15%. So, convert your coal fired station with NO subsidies, into a Biomass and get £500M a year in subsidies.

85% of Britain's so called Green credential Electric that it reports to the EU as being GREEN is Biomass.......

NOW: Times THAT little lot across the whole of the EU and there goes the Amazonian rain forest in 12 moths......

Once again, EU Green bollocks, its all about the money !!!!!

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Just having another read through this thread and...


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I am sure some of these people wake up in the morning and sit over breakfast thinking "what crap can I come out with today to get myself noticed".......


..and I don't think that's too far from the truth.... Confused
  
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Just having another read through this thread and...


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I am sure some of these people wake up in the morning and sit over breakfast thinking "what crap can I come out with today to get myself noticed".......


..and I don't think that's too far from the truth.... Confused


We are all doing a very good job then, Walkage, BrianJ42, ect Laughing
Maybe skip breakfast and straight to the keyboard Idea
  
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Ooooooooh, below the belt ref Wink





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